Via: UK.AC.EARN-RELAY; 16 OCT 89 10:37:33 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 6373; Sat, 14 Oct 89 07:25:59 BS Received: from CEARN.cern.ch by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 6241; Sat, 14 Oct 89 07:25:58 B Received: by CEARN (Mailer R2.03B) id 2902; Sat, 14 Oct 89 07:25:04 GVA Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 10:00:11 MDT Reply-To: INFO-ATARI16@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Sender: INFO-ATARI16 Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was INFO-A16@MARIST From: INFO-ATARI16-REQUEST@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #516 Comments: To: INFO-ATARI16@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-ATARI16 Digest Fri, 13 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 516 Today's Topics: 1040 ST upgrade info req. Harddisk/ST problem! High-speed modems and the Atari ST Input thru parallel port pack and speed of execution Sampled sound replay routine ST curses? TOS 1.4 problem WANTED: details of 1meg upgrade process. Who has an executable version of MicroEmacs 3.10? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Oct 89 19:37:00 GMT From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cso.uiuc.edu!glk3593@iuv ax.cs.indiana.edu Subject: 1040 ST upgrade info req. Could someone who recently upgraded their 1040 to more meg send me the details, either where they bought an upgrade, or how they did it themselves? Thanks in advance. -Spieu! ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 89 08:45:28 GMT From: eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!tnosoes!joep@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Joep Mathijssen) Subject: Harddisk/ST problem! First I thought it was because of a program I wrote using lots of 'malloc'/'free'-s. But then I found a very simple sequence of actions leading to the same 'nice' dialogbox: "NOT ENOUGH MEMORY TO LOAD THIS APPLICATION" (or something like that) Example: I have, for example, the following directory-structure on F: DIR1 FILE1.1 FILE1.2 ... DIR2 FILE2.1 FILE2.2 ... DIR3 FILE3.1 FILE3.2 ... * I double-click on DIR1 and I see FILE1.1 and FILE1.2 * I go UP and double-click on DIR2 and I see FILE2.1 and FILE2.2 * I go up again * NOW: do a SHOWINFO on drive F: getting some info. * I double-click on DIR1 and I see FILE1.1 and FILE1.2 * I go UP and double-click on DIR2 and I see FILE2.1 and FILE2.2 ? Going up and double-click on DIR3 and I SEE: "O BYTES O FILES" !!!!!!! ? AND: trying to start an application.... right... OUT OF MEM... * RESET, dclick of DIR3 and there are my files again. It looks like that any directory I dont open is empty after a showinfo! No matter how hard I click on a dir the computer won't even read something from disk. Thinking that some utility was the cause of the problems, I removed them all (thus FILEFIX.ACC TURBO_ST etc etc), but it stays the same. So or if have some VIRUS or my harddisk is a little disturbed. I think it is the last option. Somebody told me that using TURBODOS can cause trouble with your harddisk! IT THAT SO! Somebody tell me what went wrong. Joep Mathijssen joep@tnosoes.uucp mcvax.cwi.nl!tnosoes!joep ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 89 05:15:33 GMT From: cca.ucsf.edu!wet!logic@cgl.ucsf.edu (Henry Kwan) Subject: High-speed modems and the Atari ST Having just recently acquired an USR Courier HST Dual Standard, I am anxious to compare notes with other ST users who favor the USR high speed modems, especially in the area of throughput. I am currently getting about ?1625 cps in HST mode. Protocal used is Zmodem and I have the comm port locked to 19200 with TURBOCTS installed. The USR manual says that I should be getting 1740 cps while in HST mode. So where is the missing ?100 cps? Also, is there terminal software out there which supports Ymodem-G? I noticed that on uploads, my throughput drops way down to ?600 cps. So I want to see if using Ymodem-G instead of Zmodem will kick that cps rating up a little bit. Please mail any replies. Thanks. -- Henry Kwan - FWB, Inc. | "Experience varies directly claris!wet!logic@ames.arc.nasa.gov | with equipment ruined." cca.ucsf.edu!wet!logic@cgl.ucsf.edu | ?claris,ucsfcca,hoptoad,lamc?!wet!logic | -- Tech Support ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 13:22:44 MEZ From: Edgar Schwietzke Subject: Input thru parallel port Could somebody please explain whether there is the risk of damaging the soundchip when an output signal from a TTL-compatible (no tri-state or open-collector) device is directly fed to the printer port? As far as I know, the printer port is switched to output mode during system initialization. Therefore, there is a good chance that the port lines are tied to different voltage levels until the port is explicitly switched to input mode. I'm using a A/D converter directly connected to the printer port without any problems so far. Nevertheless, I'd like to know what's going on ... Edgar ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 19:52:44 GMT From: mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!hybrid!spocom!gng@tut.cis.ohio-state.ed u Subject: pack and speed of execution Does the pack compression program slow down the execution of a program? I've been hearing things like this from some people, but I'm not entirely too sure who to believe. At the moment, I'm not packing any of my programs (flash, wordup, etc) because of speed performances (loading) but with such savings in 'K', I'm very tempted to... ;-] -- George Ng (Computer Science, Univ. of Toronto) "Sure I would like Canadian UUCP: uunet!mnetor!?becker,hybrid?!spocom!gng winters too...if it weren't or: uunet!attcan!telly!ziebmef!spocom!gng for the weather." ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 13:29:00 GMT From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!glk01126@iuvax.cs.indiana.ed u Subject: Sampled sound replay routine What about the PD desksong programs that play melodies while you fiddle (bad pun) about the desktop? -Spieu! ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 11:22:10 GMT From: otter!gjh@hplabs.hp.com (Graham Higgins) Subject: ST curses? I have it, I'll attempt to post it to comp.sources.atari.st. I suppose I'd better check the dox first, justv to make sure that it *is* postable (should be, unless it was illegally available in the first place). Graham ====== ------------------------------------------------------------------ Graham Higgins | Phone: (0272) 799910 x 24060 Hewlett-Packard Labs | gray@hpl.hp.co.uk Bristol | gray%hplb.uucp@ukc.ac.uk U.K. | gray@hplb.hpl.hp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Disclaimer: My opinions above are exactly that, mine and opinions. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 89 16:53:43 GMT From: cacilj!paul@ucsd.edu (Paul Close) Subject: TOS 1.4 problem In article <22966@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes: > >You haven't been following the "grapevine documentation" for TOS 1.4, Aaron.. >(what..? you expected docs for your $100...? get real) Well, who got out of bed on the wrong side this morning? :-) When I bought TOS 1.4 from my dealer I got a nice, four page document from Atari describing the new TOS procedures. Included was the new file selector ("formerly called item selector"), the MOVE operation (hold the ctl key when you drag files), warm/cold resets from the keyboard (Ctl/Alt/del Ctl/Alt/Rshift/del, resp.), installing auto-booting gem applications, and a few other things I can't remember right now. Maybe you should be flaming your dealer instead? -- Paul Close paul@cacilj.CTS.COM ...!?uunet, ucsd, crash?!cacilj!paul The Obi-wan Kenobi method: "Use the Source, Luke" -Jim Fulton ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 89 06:13:19 GMT From: portal!cup.portal.com!CharlieBrown@uunet.uu.net (Charles F Schieber) Subject: WANTED: details of 1meg upgrade process. A friend on Portal installed a 1 meg upgrade a year or so and it has worked fine on my 520FM.You can leave him a message on Mail...Portal.His name is Michael Robert Delany.He is always on the move but I know he checks his mail on Portal..Good Luck. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 89 11:00:35 GMT From: mcsun!inria!mirsa!colas@uunet.uu.net (Colas NAHABOO) Subject: Who has an executable version of MicroEmacs 3.10? I grabbed recently the uemacs3.10 sources on purdue, but didn't manage to compile it successfully with MWC 3.0.6: It works, but: 1) It does not use inverse video for mode lines 2) it aborts with 4 bombs when trying to do TOS functions (for instance with ~X-!) under msh (v2 or v3) Could someone who have a working binary could just put it by ftp on terminator.cc.umich.edu, where anybody could grab it? (or mail it to me, I would then put it myself on terminator...) -- or tell me what flag to set to re-compile it properly? Uemacs 3.10 seems a very reasonable alternative to Gnu emacs, especially on a floppy-based 1Meg ST!!! Thanks, colas. ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 Issue #516 *****************************************